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Tuesday, October 30, 2007
UN-Conventional Convention Part II
I still think Edwards the best of the VIABLE candidates. I think unfortunately the Edwards campaign hasn't taken advantage of the deep support out there. I conducted my own straw poll of about 30 dems on the bus from the parkinglot, and the Edwards vote was the clear winner clocking 16 votes out of a possible 30. I placed no limit of how many times a person could vote. Next closest was Kucinich but only about 8 for him Clinton, Biden Dodd and Richardson.
Linda and I and about 12 other folks got EDWARDS signs Saturday evening, of the FRI-SAT-SUNDAY Florida Democratic Convention. It was a convention with out nearly any of the National Candidates. Kucinich was rumored to be attending, but only Senator Gravel, came and spoke informally to the Progressive Caucus.
They've all been forbidden to appear in public in Florida, due to squabbling between the State and National Democratic Party.
They have all been banned from appearing in FL, except at BIG TICKET PRIVATE MEETINGS. There were signs from the Clinton Campaign and the Obama campaign, on parade the very first morning, but no one else had signs, until Saturday evening when some Edwards signs showed up. We begged a pair, and this group of self selected Edwards supporters paraded around the convention hall, for forty five minutes signs held high.
And all this DEMOCRATIC CONFUSION, was set in motion by shenanigans in the REPULISICAN RUN Florida legislature, and it has now impacted party unity and STATE / NATIONAL cooperation to the extent that some State Party Leaders are - get this IN COURT SUING the National Dems. Hmm dems suing Dems, why? Because the National Party has ruled that NOT ONLY are the candidates banned from appearing before the PUBLIC - but the National Dems say they won't count our January primary, and no Florida Dems will be seated at the National Convention in August in Denver.
HOLY SMOKES - lets see WHO benefits... WHO ????????
Dems Suing DEMS, are they CRAZY or just MOLES???
Add to that, the news that our party chairperson, Ms Karen Thurman is working as a Consultant for a lobbying firm owned by Al Cardenas the Chair of the FLORIDA Republican Party?????? Cozy eh?
Well when this was disclosed in a Herald article - It has been said, that she's only working on a project at the Port of Miami . And the second widely used excuse is, hey - she's taking republican money - so how's that bad ?
Well you could call it the spirit of nascent bipartisan-ship if the republicans hadn't been using every dirty trick to screw florida voters, or if they could say, because she works with them, they didn't do this, or we got them to do that - it that might be different...
So it just keeps getting curiouser, and curiouser
This side of the looking glass
Rick Spisak
Part 1 The Unconventional Party Convention
I spoke with Edwards HQ about a possible speaker.
And they said whilst we rest gently, if unrequited, under the bans,
I asked when? ... They said ... Until we meet again?
Somehow... until the National and State Party's can "kiss and make up"...
after all it's only a National Natural $Election or maybe the Constitution
at ri$k.
Is it possible that this issue might be Mediated? Rather than Litigated???
Are there no bigger children in the sandbox????
Well we can easily afford to alienate party workers and cool state & federal relations, divide them while undeserving the actual electors.
And preparing for simultaneous national, state and regional elections. Timing!
$ure is Lucky... BIG MONEY EVENT$ CAN $TILL TAKE PLACE
lucky for them,
hopefully at least, the well-heeled will be attended to.
When I get better news, I will share it.
Rick Spisak
Progressive Democrat
ACLU - TCC
MoveOn
BORDC
Tuesday, October 23, 2007
RE Florida Democratic Convention in Orlando
I have decided to attend the convention, while my heart will be with my brothers and sisters, and true friends in the streets at Eola Park and across my endangered country.
I must say, I am disappointed to see the dem-party suing itself? Abandoning candidates, and delegates, $1000 a plate this, and $150 a plate that.
The Repulsican Lizards must be enjoying the turmoil -
You think it serves their interests to see DEMS suiing DEMS???????
While I cannot afford to purchase the Senator of my choice, I have trouble with Sen. Nelson who does occasionally speaks, like he's heard of the Constitution.
I have yet to hear his voice opposing Guantanamo, or SPYING, or TORTURE-the-
I asked with no small irony at a local dem mtg?
"Is there a place for progressives, in the Democratic Party?"
Hillary and Obama, can't see us abandoning occupation of OUR IRAQ,
even by the end of a potential second term?
Is there no one in the party leadership offended at the spying and surveillance that even, Attorney General Ashcroft, Acting AG Comey, and FBI Director Mueller, and Solicitor General Olsen couldn't stomach, but was DONE ANYWAY, by the Current Junta?
Hold the TELCOM co-conspirators harmless on BUSHCO Spying -
Sure, No Problem, says dem leadership? This is OPPOSITION?
If no one in the Democratic Leadership has a stomach to oppose torture, or the loss or privacy, or the complete dismantlement of the Constitution.
Then the democratic party only serves its leash - holding corporate masters.
Has the party of Wilson, and Roosevelt become DEMOCRAT CO?
If so, it is no longer a party that serves the needs of american citizens,
who still care for the Constitution and the American Experiment in Liberty and Self-Governance.
We must impeach these abusers of their offices. We must oppose those who have broken treaty after treaty and left our soldiers vulnerable again, and again, and again, to the worst sort of TIT for TAT treatment.
The RIGHT trumpets the lie, that progressives, don't care for the human beings who are soldiers. While they abandon Geneva Conventions?
I would laugh, but my tears cannot permit it.
A bayonet is a tool with a worker on both ends
Solidarity and Peace
Rick Spisak
Progressive - Like the Magna Carta Proponents
Liberal - like those who opposed children in factories
Radical - like those who urged granting women, negroes and even indians human rights
Incindiery - like those who dared opposed the Greatest Empire on earth, from its break away colonies